Great to chat with Jenny Berry about the work she does in Prisons, supporting both Prisoners and Prison Officers, using poetry and creative writing.

A really tough audience, pun intended, so it takes someone pretty special to make that work.. Fantastic insight from someone right in the thick of it.

Had a great time recording this, a good few laughs too..

..and if anybody listens to this Episode who works at HMP Styal get in touch with Jenny, she’s really passionate about working with the women there..

Jenny is on Twitter @jberrypoetry and on Instagram @jennyberrywriter